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     * get active maintainers of quality PEAR1 packages to port them to PEAR2     * get active maintainers of quality PEAR1 packages to port them to PEAR2
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 ===== Minutes ===== ===== Minutes =====
-=== Unresolved Issues from Last Year === 
-  * Three outstanding RFC's are awaiting Group voting 
  
-=== Testing and Continuous Integration Server ===+==== Attendees ==== 
 +  * Brett Bieber ([[saltybeagle]]) 
 +  * Mike Gauthier ([[gauthierm]]) 
 +  * Chuck Burges ([[ashnazg]]) 
 +  * Bill Shupp ([[shupp]]) 
 +  * Ken Guest ([[radagast]]) 
 +Chuck called the meeting to order shortly after 14:00 UTC.\\ 
 +Bill logged the IRC content for absent members.\\ 
 +Mike compiled minutes.\\ 
 + 
 +==== Followup from Last Meeting on 2009-08-16 ==== 
 +  * See the [[pear:group:meetingagenda:20090816|2009-08-16 meeting's minutes]] 
 +  * Bill got the 'pear' twitter account 
 +  * Bill created a cron job that puts PEAR package releases on Twitter 
 +    * Cron job is in the pearweb/trunk/cron/rss-to-twitter.php 
 +    * Cron is currently on Bill's laptop 
 +  * Bill reports that Digg does not have spare design resources to give to PEAR. 
 +  * Chuck reports that Travis granted access for Chuck to the pear account on Github. 
 +  * Action Items: 
 +    * Bill will check with Brett and/or Christian to see about getting the Twitter cron running on a PEAR server.
  
-  * agenda item was mostly skipped as Christian and Daniel are not present +==== Topics ====
-  * QA needs to be emphasized for PEAR +
-  * phpUnderControl is planned for sg1 for testing with multiple PHP versions+
  
-=== Attracting New Developers ===+=== SVN Avail === 
 +  * PEAR Group needs to be added to pear in the global_avail file so they can give SVN access to new PEAR developers 
 +  * The old PEAR Group and PEAR president currently have access 
 +  * Action items: 
 +    * Bill will ask Andrei to update the pear line in global_avail to include the group and president 
 +    * Chuck sent a patch to pear-group on September 1st to do this, patch just needs committing.
  
-  * Community outreach via blogs, social networks, etc was suggested +=== PEAR Test Server (sg1) === 
-    * PEAR needs mention on Facebook, Twitter, etc. +  The goals for sg1 are at http://wiki.php.net/systems/sg1 
-    Group members' blogs should be on Planet PHP +  * The new PEAR group has been successfully testing pearweb improvements on test.pear.php.net 
-    * Group members should post PEAR-related posts to the shared PEAR blog. +  * No continuous integration work has been started yet 
-      * this will include meeting minutes, vote outcomes, security notices, etc+    * The goal is to get phpUnderControl plugin for Cruise Control up and running 
-  * The website was mentioned as a place where PEAR could improve its appearance to attract new developersIt was suggested that the website should include tutorials and screen-casts for new developers+    * Tests will run under separate PHP versions 
-  * The members of the PEAR group should all use Pyrus and promote +      Christian is setting up a phpfarm script to automate testing under multiple PHP versions 
-   its use to other developers. +        At some pointthis will integrate with pUC 
-  High-quality packages with active developers will encourage other developers to use and contribute to PEAR. +    * Daniel's magic at http://www.lauken.com/doconnor/phpcs.html should move to sg1 and/or be integrated with phpUnderControl 
-  Being friendlytimely and helpful to new developers will help retain and attract new developers. Recent technical issues caused some slow turn-around recently, but these issues have since been fixed. +    Once set up, developers can opt-in to phpUnderControl notifications 
-    * Being quick to respond to new accounts and karma requests is important. +  * Action Items: 
-  IRC support is being handled pretty well. +    * Chuck will start setting up phpUnderControl and Cruise Control on sg1 
-  * Action items +    * Mike and Bill will assist Chuck where possible 
-    * Bill will look into wrangling control of the pear and pear2 Twitter accounts. +    * Mike will send a message to pear-dev after stuff is set up
-    * Bill will set up a Twitter account for pearphp +
-    * Bill will ask if Digg has any design resources to give for the PEAR Website. +
-    * David will make sure Group will be given accounts on the PEAR blog +
-    * Group members will start using Pyrus and tell their developer friends how cool it is.+
  
-=== PEAR2 ===+=== Goals for 2009-2010 === 
 +  * Attracting new developers is going well 
 +    * We have Spreadsheet_Excell_Writer maintainers now! 
 +    * New developers need more mentoring to ensure they're following the pear guidelines 
 +  * Action Items: 
 +    * Ken will start a wiki page outlining areas where the QA-Group can improve mentoring - "Orientation for New Developers". This will eventually go in the manual at http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.release.php 
 +    * Bill will put the PEAR Group goals on a separate page in the wiki 
 +    * Mike will review docbook styles for pearweb
  
-  * Brett and Greg (cellog) are the only two developers working on PEAR2--they may need some help. +=== Fakemail === 
-    * website needs assistance in terms of development and design +  * PEAR Group unanimously approves its use 
-  * PEAR2 cannot launch until at least PHP 5.3.1, but the website and bug-tracking infrastructure likely won't be ready by then anyway. +  * Unit tests should skip if Fakemail is not present 
-  * Marketing +  * Action Items: 
-    * Teaser posts on Pyrus features will increase interest in PEAR2. +    * Ken will install Fakemail on sg1 
-    * Major marketing will be withheld until the stable launch of Pyrus. +    * Ken will check with Christian to get sg1 shell access
-  * Bug Manager +
-    * a functioning bug tracker is needed before PEAR2 can launch +
-    * some PHP internals developers want a global bug tracker for all PHP projects +
-    * PEAR2 developers want to build a stand-alone bug tracking package that could be used for PEAR2 and for other projects. (Bug Manager) +
-    * either of these goals will take some time +
-  * Action items +
-    * Bill will look into assisting Greg with the Bug Manager package +
-    * Christian will work on getting pearweb running on PHP 5.3.x to test the Bug Manager package with real-world data.+
  
-=== Next Meeting ===+=== RFCs === 
 +  * Two RFC's were discussed, [[pear:rfc:pear2_policy|PEAR2 policy]] and [[pear:rfc:pear2_standards|standards]] 
 +  * Several of the more controversial RFCs are becoming dependencies of the policy and standards RFCs 
 +  * The abandoned-alpha-package period is a bit too long (one year). Six months was suggested. 
 +    * Group agrees that power to delete an abandoned package should rest with the Group only. 
 +  * Mike had several minor comments and fixes which were emailed to pear-group for group review 
 +  * Brett was added as a sponsor to the PEAR2 policy so that a current PEAR Group member is a sponsor 
 +  * PEAR2 policy regarding including alpha packages in the channel has been superseded by Greg's RFC on versioning 
 +  * Group voted to reaffirm the PEAR2 Policies RFC until 45 days following the next Group elections. Votes were +5, 0, 0 
 +  * Group voted to reaffirm the PEAR2 Standards RFC until 45 days following the next Group elections. Votes were +5, 0, 0
  
-  * 2009-09-06 at 14:00 UTC +=== Next Meeting ==== 
-  * Action items +  * PEAR Group is going to meet in two weeks to talk about only RFCs 
-    Brett will post to pear-group with a potential new time. Possibly 2-3 hours earlier as Bill doesn't mind early mornings and Daniel is 16.5 hours away.+  Next meeting will be 2009-09-20 16:00 UTC.
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