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-====== PEAR Group Meeting Agenda Sunday 13th 2007 ======+====== PEAR Group Meeting Agenda Sunday 13th May 2007 ======
  
 Looks like the meeting will be on Sunday the 13th http://www.doodle.ch/dpgNgSFqcw87 Looks like the meeting will be on Sunday the 13th http://www.doodle.ch/dpgNgSFqcw87
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     * Why so many dead proposals?     * Why so many dead proposals?
   * Some sort of Design Guide to go along with coding standards   * Some sort of Design Guide to go along with coding standards
 +
 +===== Minutes =====
 +These are the minutes from the May 13th PEAR Group meeting, if you have any questions feel free to send us an email (pear-group at php.net).
 +
 +These minutes will be posted on the pear website at a latter date.
 +-josh
 +--------
 +
 +===Attending===
 +
 +  * Arnaud Limbourg (arnaud)
 +  * Christian Weiske (cweiske)
 +  * Helgi Pormar (helgi)
 +  * Joshua Eichorn (jeichorn)
 +  * Lukas Smith (lsmith)
 +
 +  * Pear President Greg Beaver (cellog)
 +
 +===Not Attending===
 +  * David Coallier (davidc)
 +  * Martin Jansen (mj)
 +
 +
 +arnaud and lsmith left the meeting after the first hour
 +cellog arrived 2 hours into the meeting
 +
 +==Discussion==
 +
 +Agenda for meeting is at: [[MeetingAgenda20070513]]
 +
 +===Making decisions (non-policy)===
 +Decisions are made by consensus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus), any member can call for a vote if they disagree, voting has to be seconded
 +If the entire pear group is available in a meeting voting can be done during the meeting otherwise an email vote is done
 +Email votes should be a minmum of 7 days (or until all votes are cast) with sponsor of vote having the ability to set a longer time
 +Email votes should be managed by any PEAR Group momber other then the membe rhwo called for the vote
 +All Votes are final
 +
 +Community notification will be on a case by case basis depending on the importance of the decision, with a minimum of an email to pear-dev
 +A pear group member can call for a pear group vote to decide an issue by full pear election
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * jeichorn - post this wording to the group for review
 +  * helgi - find a place on the website for items like this
 +
 +===Community Notification, increasing transparency===
 +Minutes will be posted from each meeting to a new section of the website with notifications to pear-dev and website front page
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * arnaud - sending current thoughts to the rest of the pear group and making sure everyone else is fine with our solution
 +  * helgi - creating a new section on the website to post minutes too
 +  * jeichorn - post minutes from this meeting
 +
 +===Vice President===
 +candidates:
 +  * jeichorn
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * postponing until after the runoff election to give winner a chance to be a candidate if they want
 +
 +===Meeting Schedule===
 +Meet every 2 weeks, need at least 3 members present to have a meeting
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * helgi - schedule another meeting next week
 +
 +===Constitution updates===
 +Cover pear group tie for last position runoff
 +Cover winning president less then 50% of votes
 +Schedule election on new wording within a month
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * cweiske will work on the language of the amendment
 +
 +===Defining Collectives===
 +Goal is for each collective to have at least 5 packages
 +Review with pear group, and then entire community
 +http://wiki.bluga.net/pear/collectives
 +We will need to create a guide to help collectives get started
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * jeichorn- send out url and ask for feedback
 +  * jeichorn- put back on agenda for next meeting
 +
 +===Managing ongoing tasks===
 +Were just going to leave this to whoever has time, we seem to be covering things well right now
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * helgi - add a feature request for a cron check on limbo account approvals http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=11026
 +
 +===RFC Process===
 +http://wiki.bluga.net/pear/rfc
 +Working off current proposal
 +Need to look at when to do a full pear vote
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * jeichorn - get review from rest of the pear group
 +  * cweiske - create RFC section of the manual
 +
 +Skip Items #9 to #11 on agenda
 +
 +===Licensing in general===
 +were not going to push any license on the approved list, but we will discourage the php license on none extension code
 +recommendations about handling multiple copyright owners on code, and license compatibility would be good
 +recommend GFDL for the manual
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * cellog - search for legal advice to help review current licenses
 +
 +===Mozilla Code and the MPL===
 +We don't want another license in PEAR it's hard enough as it stands
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * cellog - contact and mozilla and work out their concerns
 +  * jeichorn - find original pear-dev email
 +
 +===Review Suggestions===
 +Need to cover more, with the rest of the group
 +spent some time covering a new include proposal from cellog for pear2 that would solve include_path concerns
 +
 +Prop Summary:
 +1 file per package that includes all its code
 +Support autoload for people who want that
 +PEAR2 provides an autoload class
 +
 +====action items====
 +  * jeichorn - make sure all of pear group has read the comments
 +
 +All other items on the Agenda were moved to the next meeting
 +
 +===General Action Items===
 +  * jeichorn - start agenda for the next meeting
 +  * jeichorn - get minutes approved and published on pear-dev
 +
  
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