====== PEAR Group Meeting 6th September 2009 ======
Apologies: [[doconnor]] is on holiday
  - Can we get put into http://svn.php.net/viewvc/SVNROOT/global_avail
  - PEAR test server - discussion, look at its role in the future of PEAR  ([[doconnor]], [[cweiske]])
  - Set goals for group for 2009 to 2010 (short, middle and long term)
  - Till requested we discuss whether package tests can use [[http://www.lastcraft.com/fakemail.php|fakemail]] ([[shupp]])

  * Action Items from last meeting
    * New group members will catch up on [[pear:rfc|content of RFC's]] before next meeting and will be ready to discuss or present changes.
    * Group will vote on PEAR2 policy and standards RFC's at beginning of next meeting.
    * Other RFC's will be discussed in detail during next meeting.

=== Goals for This Year ===

  * Short term
    * getting outstanding RFC's ratified and voted on
    * **TODO:** Are there any left to do this for? ([[pear:rfc:pear2_naming_standards|naming standards]], [[pear:rfc:pear2_class_naming|class naming]], [[pear:rfc:pear2_exception_policy|exception policy]]) ?
  * Mid term
    * stable PEAR2/Pyrus release
    * attracting new developers to PEAR2
  * Long term
    * get active maintainers of quality PEAR1 packages to port them to PEAR2



===== Minutes =====

==== Attendees ====
  * Brett Bieber ([[saltybeagle]])
  * Mike Gauthier ([[gauthierm]])
  * Chuck Burges ([[ashnazg]])
  * Bill Shupp ([[shupp]])
  * Ken Guest ([[radagast]])
Chuck called the meeting to order shortly after 14:00 UTC.\\
Bill logged the IRC content for absent members.\\
Mike compiled minutes.\\

==== Followup from Last Meeting on 2009-08-16 ====
  * See the [[pear:group:meetingagenda:20090816|2009-08-16 meeting's minutes]]
  * Bill got the 'pear' twitter account
  * Bill created a cron job that puts PEAR package releases on Twitter
    * Cron job is in the pearweb/trunk/cron/rss-to-twitter.php
    * Cron is currently on Bill's laptop
  * Bill reports that Digg does not have spare design resources to give to PEAR.
  * Chuck reports that Travis granted access for Chuck to the pear account on Github.
  * Action Items:
    * Bill will check with Brett and/or Christian to see about getting the Twitter cron running on a PEAR server.

==== Topics ====

=== SVN Avail ===
  * PEAR Group needs to be added to pear in the global_avail file so they can give SVN access to new PEAR developers
  * The old PEAR Group and PEAR president currently have access
  * Action items:
    * Bill will ask Andrei to update the pear line in global_avail to include the group and president
    * Chuck sent a patch to pear-group on September 1st to do this, patch just needs committing.

=== PEAR Test Server (sg1) ===
  * The goals for sg1 are at http://wiki.php.net/systems/sg1
  * The new PEAR group has been successfully testing pearweb improvements on test.pear.php.net
  * No continuous integration work has been started yet
    * The goal is to get phpUnderControl plugin for Cruise Control up and running
    * Tests will run under separate PHP versions
      * Christian is setting up a phpfarm script to automate testing under multiple PHP versions
        * At some point, this will integrate with pUC
    * Daniel's magic at http://www.lauken.com/doconnor/phpcs.html should move to sg1 and/or be integrated with phpUnderControl
    * Once set up, developers can opt-in to phpUnderControl notifications
  * Action Items:
    * Chuck will start setting up phpUnderControl and Cruise Control on sg1
    * Mike and Bill will assist Chuck where possible
    * Mike will send a message to pear-dev after stuff is set up

=== Goals for 2009-2010 ===
  * Attracting new developers is going well
    * We have Spreadsheet_Excell_Writer maintainers now!
    * New developers need more mentoring to ensure they're following the pear guidelines
  * Action Items:
    * Ken will start a wiki page outlining areas where the QA-Group can improve mentoring - "Orientation for New Developers". This will eventually go in the manual at http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.release.php
    * Bill will put the PEAR Group goals on a separate page in the wiki
    * Mike will review docbook styles for pearweb

=== Fakemail ===
  * PEAR Group unanimously approves its use
  * Unit tests should skip if Fakemail is not present
  * Action Items:
    * Ken will install Fakemail on sg1
    * Ken will check with Christian to get sg1 shell access

=== RFCs ===
  * Two RFC's were discussed, [[pear:rfc:pear2_policy|PEAR2 policy]] and [[pear:rfc:pear2_standards|standards]]
  * Several of the more controversial RFCs are becoming dependencies of the policy and standards RFCs
  * The abandoned-alpha-package period is a bit too long (one year). Six months was suggested.
    * Group agrees that power to delete an abandoned package should rest with the Group only.
  * Mike had several minor comments and fixes which were emailed to pear-group for group review
  * Brett was added as a sponsor to the PEAR2 policy so that a current PEAR Group member is a sponsor
  * PEAR2 policy regarding including alpha packages in the channel has been superseded by Greg's RFC on versioning
  * Group voted to reaffirm the PEAR2 Policies RFC until 45 days following the next Group elections. Votes were +5, 0, 0
  * Group voted to reaffirm the PEAR2 Standards RFC until 45 days following the next Group elections. Votes were +5, 0, 0

=== Next Meeting ====
  * PEAR Group is going to meet in two weeks to talk about only RFCs
  * Next meeting will be 2009-09-20 16:00 UTC.